Is it time to revisit the "we don't discuss punishments"

With the new social contract coming up and the renewed interest by the company in reporting. actual —> feedback <— from reports will spur people to actually report. Many in wow current do not bother because there is silence or an automated email saying we did something… yet in the case of bots you still see them doing thier thing.

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Template answers are not equal to Automated Replys. Silences are not automated, Squelches are and they are two separate things.

If you know of a foolproof method of removing bots from the game permanently, I’m sure Blizzard is all ears and would throw money at you.

You might wanna take it to General Discussion.

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Couple of things - bots are are unique fight. Blizzard isn’t going to ban one here and there when reported. It’s pointless and just warns the botters and authors that they’ve been detected. This is why it’s generally a mass ban wave that hits periodically, after the bots are studied, a solution is developed and implemented to break them, and investigation by the GM teams to identify botting accounts, and their associated gold funneling channels. This of course takes considerable time.

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The biggest thing that got players reporting is the streamer who “tested” the reporting system and his viewers saw that it did something.

Because knocking bots out one by one actually makes the problem worse not better.

Someone in a previous thread explained it well.

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And this is why your posts are constantly getting moderated. You might wanna turn the knob back from 11…

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If you mean Blizzard should be more transparent when they do bot ban waves, I agree. I get why they don’t discuss individual actions, or even name the software, but the playerbase would benefit from seeing some sort of tangible evidence Blizz is still banning bots.

I mean, I KNOW they do, but they don’t currently talk about it. That policy seems to change from time to time though. They have talked about it in the past.

Bots, sadly, are not something easy to get rid of. As long as players can run software on their own PCs and have motivation to cheat, they will try. Bot makers will continue to try to make money off those cheaters. Blizz will continue to detect, ban, improve detection, ban, etc. They also will continue to take legal action where they can to shut down bot makers.

It is a never ending battle.

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It’s obvious you aren’t going to listen at all. You didn’t bring anything new to the topic. Whack-a-mole removal of bots DOES NOT WORK.

Your topic name is misleading. The “We don’t discuss punishments” refers to specific account punishments. If you want to discuss the punishments being applied, do so in General Discussion.

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That wasn’t cool or appropriate, I suspect comments like that got you that long break last time.

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I’m not going to listen to mvp who spews lies about people. You need to be removed from the program since all you can do is lie.

I realize you really enjoy being confrontational and arguing. I am not taking the bait.

I agree with you on public communications about bot bans.

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And once again Eretloc falls back into trolling. Report and move on people…

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They’re “separate” but the end-effect on the reported user is the same - loss of various functions relating to chat, group finder, mailbox, etc. - things that can ruin a player’s experience for however it long it takes for a GM to review the squelch. I think that’s probably something a lot of people have far more beef with considering the automated nature of them, and it shined when the boosting community ban was implemented.

That’s something I’d like to see Blizzard work out - either reduce the effects of a squelch or get rid of it entirely so that false reporting/report abusers aren’t negatively hurting the experience of others for no reason. This whole “let the community decide if someone else can use group finder or their mailbox” approach isn’t good. You see false reporting on the forums everyday and that behavior is also prevalent in-game.

Of course, GD Is the place for that feedback and blah blah. Been there done that so nothing else I can do.

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Well, it appears a moderator had to come in and clean up some of the posts so I think this “discussion”, if it can be called that, is done.

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